Chaos on roads and injuries for pedestrians

Wharfedale Observer: Bradford from Otley Road yesterday morning Bradford from Otley Road yesterday morning

Ambulance bosses were forced to activate a major-incident plan after hundreds of trips, slips, and falls as yesterday morning’s black ice sparked an “unprecedented” number of 999 calls.

And accident and emergency units in the Bradford district reported experiencing a massive increase in injuries, with Airedale Hospital near Keighley dealing with four times as many patients as usual and Bradford Royal Infirmary seeing a “high demand” for its services in the hazardous weather.

Yorkshire Ambulance Service (YAS) enlisted its non-essential patient transport service to cope with a surge in demand to treat patients injured in a number of traffic collisions across the city, as well as people hurt after slipping on icy roads and pavements.

Dr Alison Walker, executive medical director for YAS, said last night: “The service has received hundreds of 999 calls for weather-related incidents and we are treating a lot of patients involved in road traffic collisions and injured in slips, trips and falls.

“These calls are in addition to other medical emergencies such as heart attacks and strokes.”

Airedale A&E consultant Meg Crossley said many people had been “caught out” – injuring themselves in slips, trips and falls – because it did not look icy outside.

“The forecast for the weekend is for the weather to be warmer, but if it happens again the message we would like to put out is for people to think before they head out and ask themselves if their journey is really necessary,” she said.

A Bradford Teaching Hospitals spokesman said Bradford Royal Infirmary’s emergency department had also experienced high demand for its services due to the “hazardous icy conditions” throughout the city.

“We have seen a huge increase in weather-related injuries from slips, trips and falls, as well as an increase in fractures.

“We are making every effort to treat patients as quickly as possible but would urge people who don’t have an obvious life-threatening illness or injury to consider accessing advice and treatment from non-emergency organisations such as NHS Direct, the local pharmacist or GP surgery, or by visiting a local walk-in centre.

“We are urging people to take care and only come to BRI’s A&E department if it is a medical emergency.”

The Met Office said warmer weather was expected today Police warned commuters to take extreme care while travelling after an “exceptionally high amount” of collisions caused by fog and ice in the early hours of yesterday – including accidents on both carriageways of the M62 and the M606. Chief Insp Derek Hughes, of West Yorkshire Police’s road policing unit, said: “It was treacherous. Drivers should be aware of the conditions and drive accordingly.”

A number of schools across the district were forced to close yesterday, or opened later than planned, because of fears over black ice and slippery routes for parents, children and staff.

Schools fully closed included Feversham College, Ingrow Primary, Long Lee Primary, Killinghall Primary, Riddlesden St Mary’s CE Primary, Saltaire Primary, Holy Family and All Saints’ CE Primary. All are expected to reopen on Monday.

Bradford Council said its gritters had been out all morning responding to reports of ice and would patrol the district from 8pm yesterday in case temperatures drop again.

Grit bins can be requested by calling (01274) 431000 but resources are said to be “severely limited”.

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8:08am Sat 15 Dec 12

07051982 says...

Ice is good for fat people no need to walk just skid slide
Ice is good for fat people no need to walk just skid slide 07051982
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10:41am Sat 15 Dec 12

bradfordian says...

07051982, What a stupid comment.
07051982, What a stupid comment. bradfordian
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11:54am Sat 15 Dec 12

Another Landless Peasant says...

Black ice? What black ice?
Black ice? What black ice? Another Landless Peasant
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12:08pm Sat 15 Dec 12

Albion. says...

Another Landless Peasant wrote:
Black ice? What black ice?
It only affected workers and people who go out before noon.
[quote][p][bold]Another Landless Peasant[/bold] wrote: Black ice? What black ice?[/p][/quote]It only affected workers and people who go out before noon. Albion.
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1:01pm Sat 15 Dec 12

collos25 says...

So not you then.

I am glad to see BMDC employing many people to grit pavements oh I forgot they don`t do that any more they would sooner the NHS pick up the bill.
So not you then. I am glad to see BMDC employing many people to grit pavements oh I forgot they don`t do that any more they would sooner the NHS pick up the bill. collos25
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1:26pm Sat 15 Dec 12

badford says...

Get the community pay back folks out gritting!!!!!
Get the community pay back folks out gritting!!!!! badford
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1:30pm Sat 15 Dec 12

Albion. says...

collos25 wrote:
So not you then.

I am glad to see BMDC employing many people to grit pavements oh I forgot they don`t do that any more they would sooner the NHS pick up the bill.
I was definitely out in it (wearing spikes!), we have had both roads and pavements gritted near me (might well be because of who many of my neighbours are) but nothing could make much difference to rain falling onto frozen ground.
There are certainly plenty of able-bodied unemployed people who could be used for pavement gritting and snow clearing.
[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: So not you then. I am glad to see BMDC employing many people to grit pavements oh I forgot they don`t do that any more they would sooner the NHS pick up the bill.[/p][/quote]I was definitely out in it (wearing spikes!), we have had both roads and pavements gritted near me (might well be because of who many of my neighbours are) but nothing could make much difference to rain falling onto frozen ground. There are certainly plenty of able-bodied unemployed people who could be used for pavement gritting and snow clearing. Albion.
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2:06pm Sat 15 Dec 12

collos25 says...

Like I said BMDC could have employed these people but they would sooner put the onus on the NHS.
Like I said BMDC could have employed these people but they would sooner put the onus on the NHS. collos25
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2:51pm Sat 15 Dec 12

07051982 says...

Around 500 people got broken legs because of white ice fat people bounce of to work on the ice one fatty slips out of control and falls down nothing happened to him so every body put on weight you don't nw what the will be like next and another thing av seen Santa cruising on the ice laughing mry x
Around 500 people got broken legs because of white ice fat people bounce of to work on the ice one fatty slips out of control and falls down nothing happened to him so every body put on weight you don't nw what the will be like next and another thing av seen Santa cruising on the ice laughing mry x 07051982
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3:36pm Sat 15 Dec 12

collos25 says...

Idiot
Idiot collos25
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4:20pm Sat 15 Dec 12

CharleyVarrick says...

07051982 wrote:
Ice is good for fat people no need to walk just skid slide
What a disgusting stupid comment from a complete moron.....
[quote][p][bold]07051982[/bold] wrote: Ice is good for fat people no need to walk just skid slide[/p][/quote]What a disgusting stupid comment from a complete moron..... CharleyVarrick
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4:23pm Sat 15 Dec 12

CharleyVarrick says...

07051982 wrote:
Around 500 people got broken legs because of white ice fat people bounce of to work on the ice one fatty slips out of control and falls down nothing happened to him so every body put on weight you don't nw what the will be like next and another thing av seen Santa cruising on the ice laughing mry x
You really are a **** !!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]07051982[/bold] wrote: Around 500 people got broken legs because of white ice fat people bounce of to work on the ice one fatty slips out of control and falls down nothing happened to him so every body put on weight you don't nw what the will be like next and another thing av seen Santa cruising on the ice laughing mry x[/p][/quote]You really are a **** !!!!!! CharleyVarrick
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6:51pm Sat 15 Dec 12

Shauny-Boy says...

07051982 has a valid point to an extent.
If more people actually got off their arses and walked to work, then the roads would be clearer and dare I say it the overweight would be fitter!

All those who are up in arms at the comments of 07051982, tell me, when did you last see your feet?
07051982 has a valid point to an extent. If more people actually got off their arses and walked to work, then the roads would be clearer and dare I say it the overweight would be fitter! All those who are up in arms at the comments of 07051982, tell me, when did you last see your feet? Shauny-Boy
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7:46pm Sat 15 Dec 12

RollandSmoke says...

Albion. wrote:
collos25 wrote:
So not you then.

I am glad to see BMDC employing many people to grit pavements oh I forgot they don`t do that any more they would sooner the NHS pick up the bill.
I was definitely out in it (wearing spikes!), we have had both roads and pavements gritted near me (might well be because of who many of my neighbours are) but nothing could make much difference to rain falling onto frozen ground.
There are certainly plenty of able-bodied unemployed people who could be used for pavement gritting and snow clearing.
Do you know any of these neighbours or do you just see them on your many visits to the window to twitch the curtains?
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: So not you then. I am glad to see BMDC employing many people to grit pavements oh I forgot they don`t do that any more they would sooner the NHS pick up the bill.[/p][/quote]I was definitely out in it (wearing spikes!), we have had both roads and pavements gritted near me (might well be because of who many of my neighbours are) but nothing could make much difference to rain falling onto frozen ground. There are certainly plenty of able-bodied unemployed people who could be used for pavement gritting and snow clearing.[/p][/quote]Do you know any of these neighbours or do you just see them on your many visits to the window to twitch the curtains? RollandSmoke
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10:00am Sun 16 Dec 12

wobbley-bob says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
Albion. wrote:
collos25 wrote:
So not you then.

I am glad to see BMDC employing many people to grit pavements oh I forgot they don`t do that any more they would sooner the NHS pick up the bill.
I was definitely out in it (wearing spikes!), we have had both roads and pavements gritted near me (might well be because of who many of my neighbours are) but nothing could make much difference to rain falling onto frozen ground.
There are certainly plenty of able-bodied unemployed people who could be used for pavement gritting and snow clearing.
Do you know any of these neighbours or do you just see them on your many visits to the window to twitch the curtains?
He doesn't twitch curtains Rolly, he's gone all hi-tech now & got cameras up.....doesn't even need to get out of his chair to neb these days.


Only jesting Albion... :-)
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: So not you then. I am glad to see BMDC employing many people to grit pavements oh I forgot they don`t do that any more they would sooner the NHS pick up the bill.[/p][/quote]I was definitely out in it (wearing spikes!), we have had both roads and pavements gritted near me (might well be because of who many of my neighbours are) but nothing could make much difference to rain falling onto frozen ground. There are certainly plenty of able-bodied unemployed people who could be used for pavement gritting and snow clearing.[/p][/quote]Do you know any of these neighbours or do you just see them on your many visits to the window to twitch the curtains?[/p][/quote]He doesn't twitch curtains Rolly, he's gone all hi-tech now & got cameras up.....doesn't even need to get out of his chair to neb these days. Only jesting Albion... :-) wobbley-bob
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10:42am Sun 16 Dec 12

Albion. says...

No problem Wobbles, I don't get paranoid :-)
No problem Wobbles, I don't get paranoid :-) Albion.
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12:44pm Sun 16 Dec 12

Ian H 1971 says...

One day the government will heavily tax people for being obese and causing a huge unnecessary drain on the financial resources of the NHS. This is not a personal opinion but merely pointing out what is coming further down the line; something has to be done to stop people from taking the lazy option for everything. Personal choice and freedom is fine, so long as it does not impact on others which is what they (obese people) have done for years. Let them knowingly eat badly but do not allow them access to free treatment for this obesity.
One day the government will heavily tax people for being obese and causing a huge unnecessary drain on the financial resources of the NHS. This is not a personal opinion but merely pointing out what is coming further down the line; something has to be done to stop people from taking the lazy option for everything. Personal choice and freedom is fine, so long as it does not impact on others which is what they (obese people) have done for years. Let them knowingly eat badly but do not allow them access to free treatment for this obesity. Ian H 1971
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1:02pm Sun 16 Dec 12

Albion. says...

Ian H 1971 wrote:
One day the government will heavily tax people for being obese and causing a huge unnecessary drain on the financial resources of the NHS. This is not a personal opinion but merely pointing out what is coming further down the line; something has to be done to stop people from taking the lazy option for everything. Personal choice and freedom is fine, so long as it does not impact on others which is what they (obese people) have done for years. Let them knowingly eat badly but do not allow them access to free treatment for this obesity.
Hopefully ingredients will come along to replace much of the fatty, sugary stuff, that is better digestible than the current offerings. Then, healthy options might become the norm.
I don't think that refusing treatment would go down well, especially as some people seem to be prone to being overweight irrespective of their dietary habits.
Something certainly needs to happen though.
[quote][p][bold]Ian H 1971[/bold] wrote: One day the government will heavily tax people for being obese and causing a huge unnecessary drain on the financial resources of the NHS. This is not a personal opinion but merely pointing out what is coming further down the line; something has to be done to stop people from taking the lazy option for everything. Personal choice and freedom is fine, so long as it does not impact on others which is what they (obese people) have done for years. Let them knowingly eat badly but do not allow them access to free treatment for this obesity.[/p][/quote]Hopefully ingredients will come along to replace much of the fatty, sugary stuff, that is better digestible than the current offerings. Then, healthy options might become the norm. I don't think that refusing treatment would go down well, especially as some people seem to be prone to being overweight irrespective of their dietary habits. Something certainly needs to happen though. Albion.
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4:32pm Sun 16 Dec 12

RollandSmoke says...

wobbley-bob wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Albion. wrote:
collos25 wrote:
So not you then.

I am glad to see BMDC employing many people to grit pavements oh I forgot they don`t do that any more they would sooner the NHS pick up the bill.
I was definitely out in it (wearing spikes!), we have had both roads and pavements gritted near me (might well be because of who many of my neighbours are) but nothing could make much difference to rain falling onto frozen ground.
There are certainly plenty of able-bodied unemployed people who could be used for pavement gritting and snow clearing.
Do you know any of these neighbours or do you just see them on your many visits to the window to twitch the curtains?
He doesn't twitch curtains Rolly, he's gone all hi-tech now & got cameras up.....doesn't even need to get out of his chair to neb these days.


Only jesting Albion... :-)
I heard that the last time he was seen out in the garden was in a couple of scenes from Rita Sue and Bob too. After running inside to ring his friends down the station to report an undesirable he's barely set foot out the door. You really should get out more Albion. FYI if the evening starts with all the fellers putting their car keys in a bowl it's not a Neighbourhood Watch meeting.
[quote][p][bold]wobbley-bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: So not you then. I am glad to see BMDC employing many people to grit pavements oh I forgot they don`t do that any more they would sooner the NHS pick up the bill.[/p][/quote]I was definitely out in it (wearing spikes!), we have had both roads and pavements gritted near me (might well be because of who many of my neighbours are) but nothing could make much difference to rain falling onto frozen ground. There are certainly plenty of able-bodied unemployed people who could be used for pavement gritting and snow clearing.[/p][/quote]Do you know any of these neighbours or do you just see them on your many visits to the window to twitch the curtains?[/p][/quote]He doesn't twitch curtains Rolly, he's gone all hi-tech now & got cameras up.....doesn't even need to get out of his chair to neb these days. Only jesting Albion... :-)[/p][/quote]I heard that the last time he was seen out in the garden was in a couple of scenes from Rita Sue and Bob too. After running inside to ring his friends down the station to report an undesirable he's barely set foot out the door. You really should get out more Albion. FYI if the evening starts with all the fellers putting their car keys in a bowl it's not a Neighbourhood Watch meeting. RollandSmoke
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5:04pm Sun 16 Dec 12

Albion. says...

RollandSmoke wrote:
wobbley-bob wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Albion. wrote:
collos25 wrote:
So not you then.

I am glad to see BMDC employing many people to grit pavements oh I forgot they don`t do that any more they would sooner the NHS pick up the bill.
I was definitely out in it (wearing spikes!), we have had both roads and pavements gritted near me (might well be because of who many of my neighbours are) but nothing could make much difference to rain falling onto frozen ground.
There are certainly plenty of able-bodied unemployed people who could be used for pavement gritting and snow clearing.
Do you know any of these neighbours or do you just see them on your many visits to the window to twitch the curtains?
He doesn't twitch curtains Rolly, he's gone all hi-tech now & got cameras up.....doesn't even need to get out of his chair to neb these days.


Only jesting Albion... :-)
I heard that the last time he was seen out in the garden was in a couple of scenes from Rita Sue and Bob too. After running inside to ring his friends down the station to report an undesirable he's barely set foot out the door. You really should get out more Albion. FYI if the evening starts with all the fellers putting their car keys in a bowl it's not a Neighbourhood Watch meeting.
I was doing that fifty years ago!
You should get out more yourself......to work! But you haven't the bottle have you?
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wobbley-bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: So not you then. I am glad to see BMDC employing many people to grit pavements oh I forgot they don`t do that any more they would sooner the NHS pick up the bill.[/p][/quote]I was definitely out in it (wearing spikes!), we have had both roads and pavements gritted near me (might well be because of who many of my neighbours are) but nothing could make much difference to rain falling onto frozen ground. There are certainly plenty of able-bodied unemployed people who could be used for pavement gritting and snow clearing.[/p][/quote]Do you know any of these neighbours or do you just see them on your many visits to the window to twitch the curtains?[/p][/quote]He doesn't twitch curtains Rolly, he's gone all hi-tech now & got cameras up.....doesn't even need to get out of his chair to neb these days. Only jesting Albion... :-)[/p][/quote]I heard that the last time he was seen out in the garden was in a couple of scenes from Rita Sue and Bob too. After running inside to ring his friends down the station to report an undesirable he's barely set foot out the door. You really should get out more Albion. FYI if the evening starts with all the fellers putting their car keys in a bowl it's not a Neighbourhood Watch meeting.[/p][/quote]I was doing that fifty years ago! You should get out more yourself......to work! But you haven't the bottle have you? Albion.
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5:52pm Sun 16 Dec 12

RollandSmoke says...

Albion. wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
wobbley-bob wrote:
RollandSmoke wrote:
Albion. wrote:
collos25 wrote:
So not you then.

I am glad to see BMDC employing many people to grit pavements oh I forgot they don`t do that any more they would sooner the NHS pick up the bill.
I was definitely out in it (wearing spikes!), we have had both roads and pavements gritted near me (might well be because of who many of my neighbours are) but nothing could make much difference to rain falling onto frozen ground.
There are certainly plenty of able-bodied unemployed people who could be used for pavement gritting and snow clearing.
Do you know any of these neighbours or do you just see them on your many visits to the window to twitch the curtains?
He doesn't twitch curtains Rolly, he's gone all hi-tech now & got cameras up.....doesn't even need to get out of his chair to neb these days.


Only jesting Albion... :-)
I heard that the last time he was seen out in the garden was in a couple of scenes from Rita Sue and Bob too. After running inside to ring his friends down the station to report an undesirable he's barely set foot out the door. You really should get out more Albion. FYI if the evening starts with all the fellers putting their car keys in a bowl it's not a Neighbourhood Watch meeting.
I was doing that fifty years ago!
You should get out more yourself......to work! But you haven't the bottle have you?
What and deny ATOS their slice a cut of the tax payer cake not to mention those that would profit from helping me fight my appeal? That would be selfish. Plus if they are having to bribe businesses to create jobs and subsidise their wages bill it suggests there arn't enough jobs to go round. There are some in greater need than me and for whom taking that work would not be detrimental to their health.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wobbley-bob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote: So not you then. I am glad to see BMDC employing many people to grit pavements oh I forgot they don`t do that any more they would sooner the NHS pick up the bill.[/p][/quote]I was definitely out in it (wearing spikes!), we have had both roads and pavements gritted near me (might well be because of who many of my neighbours are) but nothing could make much difference to rain falling onto frozen ground. There are certainly plenty of able-bodied unemployed people who could be used for pavement gritting and snow clearing.[/p][/quote]Do you know any of these neighbours or do you just see them on your many visits to the window to twitch the curtains?[/p][/quote]He doesn't twitch curtains Rolly, he's gone all hi-tech now & got cameras up.....doesn't even need to get out of his chair to neb these days. Only jesting Albion... :-)[/p][/quote]I heard that the last time he was seen out in the garden was in a couple of scenes from Rita Sue and Bob too. After running inside to ring his friends down the station to report an undesirable he's barely set foot out the door. You really should get out more Albion. FYI if the evening starts with all the fellers putting their car keys in a bowl it's not a Neighbourhood Watch meeting.[/p][/quote]I was doing that fifty years ago! You should get out more yourself......to work! But you haven't the bottle have you?[/p][/quote]What and deny ATOS their slice a cut of the tax payer cake not to mention those that would profit from helping me fight my appeal? That would be selfish. Plus if they are having to bribe businesses to create jobs and subsidise their wages bill it suggests there arn't enough jobs to go round. There are some in greater need than me and for whom taking that work would not be detrimental to their health. RollandSmoke
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9:55pm Sun 16 Dec 12

jacko99 says...

my next door neighbor who weighs a little over 50 stones, went out for one of his early morning walks, and had a very bad fall, this in turn led to a massive earth quake in India.....how strange ?
my next door neighbor who weighs a little over 50 stones, went out for one of his early morning walks, and had a very bad fall, this in turn led to a massive earth quake in India.....how strange ? jacko99
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10:11am Mon 17 Dec 12

Shauny-Boy says...

Ian H 1971 wrote:
One day the government will heavily tax people for being obese and causing a huge unnecessary drain on the financial resources of the NHS. This is not a personal opinion but merely pointing out what is coming further down the line; something has to be done to stop people from taking the lazy option for everything. Personal choice and freedom is fine, so long as it does not impact on others which is what they (obese people) have done for years. Let them knowingly eat badly but do not allow them access to free treatment for this obesity.
Again I agree with the comments,
But why restrict it to the obese?
What about the alcoholics and the drug abusers, or the reckless drivers who cause pain and misery and untold costs to the NHS?
[quote][p][bold]Ian H 1971[/bold] wrote: One day the government will heavily tax people for being obese and causing a huge unnecessary drain on the financial resources of the NHS. This is not a personal opinion but merely pointing out what is coming further down the line; something has to be done to stop people from taking the lazy option for everything. Personal choice and freedom is fine, so long as it does not impact on others which is what they (obese people) have done for years. Let them knowingly eat badly but do not allow them access to free treatment for this obesity.[/p][/quote]Again I agree with the comments, But why restrict it to the obese? What about the alcoholics and the drug abusers, or the reckless drivers who cause pain and misery and untold costs to the NHS? Shauny-Boy
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11:03am Mon 17 Dec 12

07051982 says...

Fat people walk don't sit and lay eggs start to run make ur fat shake nhs got no money for people how eat to die diet is good jogging is nice so if ur fat spine like tornado
Fat people walk don't sit and lay eggs start to run make ur fat shake nhs got no money for people how eat to die diet is good jogging is nice so if ur fat spine like tornado 07051982
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11:10am Mon 17 Dec 12

Albion. says...

07051982 wrote:
Fat people walk don't sit and lay eggs start to run make ur fat shake nhs got no money for people how eat to die diet is good jogging is nice so if ur fat spine like tornado
Very profound :-)
[quote][p][bold]07051982[/bold] wrote: Fat people walk don't sit and lay eggs start to run make ur fat shake nhs got no money for people how eat to die diet is good jogging is nice so if ur fat spine like tornado[/p][/quote]Very profound :-) Albion.
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11:15am Mon 17 Dec 12

Ian H 1971 says...

Shauny-Boy wrote:
Ian H 1971 wrote:
One day the government will heavily tax people for being obese and causing a huge unnecessary drain on the financial resources of the NHS. This is not a personal opinion but merely pointing out what is coming further down the line; something has to be done to stop people from taking the lazy option for everything. Personal choice and freedom is fine, so long as it does not impact on others which is what they (obese people) have done for years. Let them knowingly eat badly but do not allow them access to free treatment for this obesity.
Again I agree with the comments,
But why restrict it to the obese?
What about the alcoholics and the drug abusers, or the reckless drivers who cause pain and misery and untold costs to the NHS?
Absolutely but I fear there would be riots from those types.
[quote][p][bold]Shauny-Boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian H 1971[/bold] wrote: One day the government will heavily tax people for being obese and causing a huge unnecessary drain on the financial resources of the NHS. This is not a personal opinion but merely pointing out what is coming further down the line; something has to be done to stop people from taking the lazy option for everything. Personal choice and freedom is fine, so long as it does not impact on others which is what they (obese people) have done for years. Let them knowingly eat badly but do not allow them access to free treatment for this obesity.[/p][/quote]Again I agree with the comments, But why restrict it to the obese? What about the alcoholics and the drug abusers, or the reckless drivers who cause pain and misery and untold costs to the NHS?[/p][/quote]Absolutely but I fear there would be riots from those types. Ian H 1971
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12:14pm Mon 17 Dec 12

Huneybunch says...

Well I am not fat and not lazy. I had a fall and hurt my back on Friday but stll managed to get to work.
Well I am not fat and not lazy. I had a fall and hurt my back on Friday but stll managed to get to work. Huneybunch
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4:24pm Mon 17 Dec 12

RollandSmoke says...

Ian H 1971 wrote:
Shauny-Boy wrote:
Ian H 1971 wrote:
One day the government will heavily tax people for being obese and causing a huge unnecessary drain on the financial resources of the NHS. This is not a personal opinion but merely pointing out what is coming further down the line; something has to be done to stop people from taking the lazy option for everything. Personal choice and freedom is fine, so long as it does not impact on others which is what they (obese people) have done for years. Let them knowingly eat badly but do not allow them access to free treatment for this obesity.
Again I agree with the comments,
But why restrict it to the obese?
What about the alcoholics and the drug abusers, or the reckless drivers who cause pain and misery and untold costs to the NHS?
Absolutely but I fear there would be riots from those types.
In order to identify who these types are we would need to have an accepted definition of what is use and what is abuse. Going by government guidelines anyone who drinks more than two pints in one session is a problem drinker and any drug use is abuse. I agree that if these restrictions were brought in there would be riots but I think you'd be suprised at the people doing the rioting
[quote][p][bold]Ian H 1971[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shauny-Boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ian H 1971[/bold] wrote: One day the government will heavily tax people for being obese and causing a huge unnecessary drain on the financial resources of the NHS. This is not a personal opinion but merely pointing out what is coming further down the line; something has to be done to stop people from taking the lazy option for everything. Personal choice and freedom is fine, so long as it does not impact on others which is what they (obese people) have done for years. Let them knowingly eat badly but do not allow them access to free treatment for this obesity.[/p][/quote]Again I agree with the comments, But why restrict it to the obese? What about the alcoholics and the drug abusers, or the reckless drivers who cause pain and misery and untold costs to the NHS?[/p][/quote]Absolutely but I fear there would be riots from those types.[/p][/quote]In order to identify who these types are we would need to have an accepted definition of what is use and what is abuse. Going by government guidelines anyone who drinks more than two pints in one session is a problem drinker and any drug use is abuse. I agree that if these restrictions were brought in there would be riots but I think you'd be suprised at the people doing the rioting RollandSmoke
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12:55pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Mutha.Slimer says...

07051982 wrote:
Fat people walk don't sit and lay eggs start to run make ur fat shake nhs got no money for people how eat to die diet is good jogging is nice so if ur fat spine like tornado
I have no idea what you have just said, Punctuation is a wonderful thing, you could try it now and again.
[quote][p][bold]07051982[/bold] wrote: Fat people walk don't sit and lay eggs start to run make ur fat shake nhs got no money for people how eat to die diet is good jogging is nice so if ur fat spine like tornado[/p][/quote]I have no idea what you have just said, Punctuation is a wonderful thing, you could try it now and again. Mutha.Slimer
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